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Pete Carroll hat geschrieben:(…)
OCTARINE MAGIC

Following Pratchett's hypothesis, the eighth colour of the spectrum, which is the magicians personal perception of the "colour of magic", may be called octarine. For me, this is a particular shade of electric pinkish-purple. My most signifikant optical visions have all occured in this hue, and I visualise it to colour many of my more important spells and sigils on the astral. Before I set sail in a handmade open boat through the Arabian Sea I was tricked into accepting a huge and priceless star ruby by a wizard in India. It was of an exactly octarine hue. During the most violent typhoon I have ever experienced I found myself shrieking my conjurations to Thor and Poseidon whilst clinging to the bowsprit as mountainous waves smashed into the boat and octarine lightning bolts crashed into the sea all around. Looking back it seems miraculous that I and my crew survived. I have kept the octarine stone, uncertain as to whether it was passed to me as a curse, a joke, a blessing, or a test, or all of these things.

Other magicians perceive octarine in different ways. My personal perception of octarine is probably a consequence of sex (purple) and anger (red) being my most effective forms of gnosis. Each should seek out the colour of magic for himself.

The octarine power is our instinctual drive towards magic, which, if allowed to flower, creates the magician self or personality in the psyche, and in affinity with various magician god forms. The "Magician Self" varies naturally between magicians, but has the general characteristics of antinomianism and deviousness, with a predilection for manipulation and the bizarre. The antinomianism of the magician self arises partly from the general estrangement of our culture from magic. The magicial self therefore tends to take an interest in everything that does not exist, or should not exist, acording to ordinary consensus reality. To the magician self, "Nothing is Unnatural". A statement full of endless meanings. The deviousness of the magician self is a natural extension of the sleight of mind required to manipulate the unseen. The god forms of the octarine power are those which correspond most closely with the characteristics of the magician self, and are usually the magicians most important modes of possession for purely magical inspiration. Baphomet, Pan, Odin, Loki, Tiamat, Ptah, Eris, Hekate, Babalon, Lilith and Ishtar are examples of god forms which can be used in this way.

Alternatively the magician may wish to formulate a magician god form on a purely idiosyncratic basis, in which case the symbolism of the serpent and the planet Uranus often prove useful starting points.

The magician can invoke such god forms for the illumination of various aspects of the magical self, and for various works of purerather than applied magic. The category of pure magic includes such activities as the development of magical theories and philosophies, and magical training programs, the devising of symbolic systems for use in divinations, spells and incantations, and also the creation of magical languages for similar purposes. It is worth noting here that chaos-magical languages are usually now written in V-Prime before transliteration into magical barbaric form. V-Prime or Vernacular Prime is simply one's native tongue in which all use of all tenses of the verb "to be" is omitted in accordance with quantum metaphysics. All the nonsense of transcendentalism disappears quite naturally once this tactic is adopted. There is no being, all is doing.

The octarine power is invoked to inspire the magician self and to expand the magicians primary arcana. The primary personal arcana consists of the fundamental symbols with which he interprets and interacts with reality (whatever that may assault perception as), magically. These symbols may be theories or kabbalas, obsessions, magical weapons, astral or physical, or indeed anything which relates to the practice of magic generally, that is not dedicated specifically to one of the other powers of applied magic, whose symbols form the secondary personal arcana of magic.

>From the vantage point of the octarine gnosis, the magician self should be able to perceive the selves of the other seven powers, and be able to see their interrelationship within his total organism. Thus the octarine power brings some ability in psychiatry, which is the adjustment of the relationship between the selves in an organism. The basis difference between a magician and a civilian is that the latter the octarine power is vestigial or undeveloped. The normal resting or neutral mode a civilian corresponds to a mild expression of the yellow power which he regards as his normal personality or "ego". The magician self however, is fully aware that this is but one of eight major tools that the organism possesses. Thus, in a sense, the "normal personality" of the magician is a tool of his magical self (and, importantly, vice versa). This realisation gives him some advantage over ordinary people. However the developing magical self will soon realize that it is not in itself superior to the other selves that the organism consists of, for there are many things they can do which it cannot.

The development of the octarine power through the philosophy and practice of magic tends to provide the magician with a second major centre amongst the selves to complement the ego of the yellow power. The awakening of the octarine power is sometimes known as "being bitten by the serpent". Those who have been, are usually as instantly recognisable to each other as, for example, two lifeboat survivors are.

Perhaps one of the greatest tricks of sleight of mind is to allow the magician self and the ego to dance together within the psyche without undue conflict. The magician who is unable to disguise himself as an ordinary person, or who is unable to act independently of his own ego, is no magician at all.

Nevertheless, the growth of the octarine, or eighth power of the self, and the discovery of the type of magician one wants to be, and the identification or synthesis of a god form to represent it, tend to create something of a mutant being, who has advanced into a paradigm that few others are aware of. It is not easy to turn back once the jouney has begun, though quite a few have tried to abort the voyage with various narcotics including mysticism. It is a pilgrimage to an unknown destination, in which one awakes successively from one nightmare into another. Some on them appear vastly entertaining at the time. There are worlds within us, the abysses are just the initiations in between them.

The evocation of an octarine servitor can create an invaluable tool for those engaged in magical research. The main functions of such entities are usually to assist in the discovery of useful information and contacts. Negative results should not be ignored here, the complete failure of a well prepared servitor to retrieve information about the hypothetical cosmic "big bang", was a contributory factor in the development of the Fiat Nox theory, for example.

Julian Vayne hat geschrieben:(…) I asked Pete recently why he chose the locations for the colours as given in his diagram above. Of course these energies/colours/styles are in opposing (or perhaps ‘complementary’ pairs). However the diagram doesn’t fit with either the Qabalistic system (if you overlay the chaosphere on Isaac Luria’s ten-balls-and-twenty-two-sticks model of the Tree it doesn’t match up). Neither is there any obvious astrological relationship (like the order of the planets as given on the heptagram shown in Crowley’s Book of Thoth). Mr Carroll told me that the order was ‘essentially arbitrary’ and therefore by changing the position of the colours (while maintaining the complementary pairs) I wouldn’t be ‘committing any great heresy’ (phew!) (…)

sternschnuppe hat geschrieben:erzähl mir bitte mehr darüber. Heisst das, Gold ist nicht so stark?
Was ist genau reine Magie?

Wie sie aussieht? Um sie zu symbolisieren verwendet man oft eine schillernde Mischung aus allen anderen Farben, wie ein Regenbogen. Aber im Endeffekt ist die Farbe wie du vielleicht weißt nicht wahrnehmbar. Es "gibt sie nicht". Aber irgendwie dann doch.

hmm , das habe ich jetzt nicht verstanden.
Liebeszauber beinhaltet doch hauptsächlich die Farbe rot - wie kann es dann als störend sein?

kannst du mir mehr übder diese farben erzählen?

sternschnuppe hat geschrieben:erzähl mir bitte mehr darüber. Heisst das, Gold ist nicht so stark?
Was ist genau reine Magie?

sternschnuppe hat geschrieben:Liebeszauber beinhaltet doch hauptsächlich die Farbe rot - wie kann es dann als störend sein?
schwarz schon eher.
wie ist das mit weiß?
ich meine schwarz und weiß sind im Regenbogen nicht vorhanden. Sie gelten als "Nichtfarben".
Was könnte das bedeuten?

sternschnuppe hat geschrieben:Was könnte das bedeuten?

für mich spielen Farben die größte Rolle der Orientierung. Wie kann es sein, dass Oktarin für jeden anders aussieht?
Wenn da ein Baum steht, ist das ein Baum und keine Katze. Wie kann es dann für jemanden als Esel erscheinen?
Verstehst du?
Klär mich da bitte mehr auf. Wenn es eine Energie gibt, hat bestimmte konzentrierte Farben

Oktarin steht für die reine Magie - im Gegensatz zu Gold

Wie sie aussieht? Um sie zu symbolisieren verwendet man oft eine schillernde Mischung aus allen anderen Farben, wie ein Regenbogen. Aber im Endeffekt ist die Farbe wie du vielleicht weißt nicht wahrnehmbar. Es "gibt sie nicht". Aber irgendwie dann doch.

Die stärkste Farbe? Kann man nicht so sagen. Du kannst mit dem oktarinen Strahl alles bewirken, er umfasst ja auch alles. Allerdings sei dir bewusst, dass "alles" "alles" heißt, und wenn du einen Liebeszauber in oktarinem Licht durchführst, hast du halt auch (möglicherweise) störende schwarze und rote Einflüsse dabei

- selbst Silber/Purpur kann in dem Zusammenhang manchmal stören

"Wenn du 3 Chaosmagier fragst, was Chaosmagie ist, bekommst du 5 verschiedene Antworten"
So der so ähnlich ging glaub ich der Spruch. Ganz allgemein betrachtet hätte ich es als eklektisches und nicht festgelegtes Framework gesehen, um einen etwas undogmatischeren Angang an die Magie zu gewährleisten.

Das Farbenmodell ist nur eine Hilfe für eine grobe Orientierung und auch Korrespondenzenfindung. Was Oktarin betrifft, die sieht für jeden etwas anders aus.

sternschnuppe hat geschrieben:kann mir hier jemand mehr darüber erzählen?
So in etwa kenne ich die Grundgeschichte dieser Magie, auch die Farben Zuordnung.
Jedoch die Farbe Oktarin ist für mich ein großes Fragezeichen.
Wie sieht sie genau aus und ist es die stärkste Farbe von allen?
Was wird mit ihr bewirkt?

Ein konkreter Link wäre auch in Ordnung.
Ich habe leider nicht viel gefunden.

Sternschnuppe

kann mir hier jemand mehr darüber erzählen?

Jedoch die Farbe Oktarin ist für mich ein großes Fragezeichen.

Was wird mit ihr bewirkt?

Ein konkreter Link wäre auch in Ordnung.